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30 December 2003

Testimonials and Other Tidbits (RV6.9)


The following are some of the complimentary written comments and related interesting items received at MicroImages since the shipment of RV6.8 exactly as provided except for the comments and edit alterations [shown in brackets] to keep them anonymous where necessary.  Additional favorable comments are received by MicroImages by voice but cannot be reproduced here verbatim as quotes.  Please note that these quotations are not edited from their original form in spelling, grammar, punctuation, and so on, and many are written by those whose first language is not English.

MicroImages clients using TNT professional products

Extracted from email from the USA on 12 May 2003

[This client is explaining the use of the new feature added in RV6.8 that permits virtual fields to combine together attributes for nodes, points, lines, and polygons—lines and the bounding polygons in this particular case.]

“Used the new leftpoly right poly functions for attachment to lines and it works great and saves me a lot of time.  Best feature of all is once you have a computed all the necessary fields for the line that you can now write some very complex combinations of variables to do polygon dissolves.

“Used to make up the database for left and right poly classes or attributes associated with each line but had to do it all external to TNTmips.  We have used this created database extensively for the last 5 years to do a recursive routine to create contiguous area from many adjacent polygons into a single polygon based on attribute information.  It is extremely useful to create habitat “patches”, then analyzing points within patches for the nearest boundaries (edge), type of boundaries (habitats and ecotones) and a host of other ecological questions.  You can run the TNT fragstats.sml [to do this] but it does not tell you who is adjacent to whom and where the “next nearest” patch of the same habitat is or the next nearest next nearest.  We use the poly attributes attached to lines in a large number of analyses.”

Extracted from email from an international client on 13 May 2003

“The [project] is going on and on.  In fact, the project will not end in 2003, but will continue at least into 2006.  Meanwhile, 310 individual projects (school construction or rehabilitation or replacement) have been completed, 190 are under planning/ construction.”

“The GIS work in TNTmips is now mainly site selection and project monitoring, and production of map graphics used for reports.  Our project manager in [a city] feels that it helps a lot.  However, there is a break in my development activities.  While map data are established and o.k., the attribute data of school, students and demography database of [an organization] are unreliable, and all attempts to improve matters failed. Therefore, we are waiting for positive results of a more centralized database campaign of the Ministry of Education (big Oracle project, financed by World Bank). Until then [my organization] is not inclined to put more money into the GIS.”

Extracted from email from Germany on 6 June 2003

[from a client who has prepared a TNTatlas, which was just posted for them to try on MicroImages’ TNTserver site hosted on our old 450 MHz Pentium server farm.  They are using the HTML-based TNTclient for the access to this atlas and comment:]

“In general I’m surprised by the speed of the system.  A last question concerns the compression of the jpg-files.  Due to some fine elements in the map the artifacts of the jpg-compression influence the readability of different maps.  Is it possible to change the value of the compression-factor?”

[MicroImages support responds as follows with regard to the “speed”:]

“Surprised by the speed.  Is it too slow? try reducing the size of the HTML TNTclient window.  We could use an HTML page instead of a simple URL to start an atlas, we could then hardcode a smaller window.  Smaller window means less data to send, mean client looks faster.  The primary bottleneck is normally the bandwidth of the connection.  If there is a specific layer or group of layers you believe are still too slow, when rendered smaller we could ask the system to cache them in advance.  I do this for atlases with 100s of layers, reduces initial drawing time for example from 5 minutes to 10 seconds.  Has less effect the less layers you have.  Unless I missed a particularly complicated layout in your atlas, I don’t believe pre caching would help much.”

[the client then responds:]

“My comment to the speed of the system was in a positive way, I was surprised that the quick response of the system, so perhaps the jpg-files could be a little larger with a better display result.”

[MicroImages support then responded that using JP2 images in the atlas would give better control of the map quality and more compression including the requested control of the compression ratio and thus more speed as less data needs to be read.]

Extracted from email from Canada on 25 June 2003

“Hi.  My name is [name].  I am a student of the University of Calgary and presently use the TNTmips for my research on image classification and change detection.  I am interested in using the TNTserver for my research because TNTmips proved to be very good and I have a couple of technical questions regarding the architecture and features of the TNTserver software in terms of some of the specifications for WebGIS by OpenGIS consortium.”

Email from Germany on 15 July 2003

“Friends of MI,

“Naturally you only hear from us when there are problems, bug or there is something to criticize.  So I want to take the opportunity and let you know that we are in general very satisfied with TNT.  After problems with V6.7 you have made a great leap with V6.8.

“You have improved error management and support substantially.  It is good to know that you always respect the wishes of your clients, work together with them and that you improve your software constantly.

“In times when GIS budgets for (municipals) administrations are reduced because of financial problems it is good that we have a GIS that covers the wide range of GIS applications and that for a fair price.  Furthermore you have an impressive number of interfaces to other GIS-Software data formats so that we have less problems with data exchange than users of greater GIS-providers.

“So go on this way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Email from Australia on 18 July 2003

[from a client who is using a 5 year old TNTmips 6.0 and is in the process of ordering an upgrade to V6.80]

“Just a few comments about TNTmips.  I love it (even after some 10 years from the bad old days of DOS version 3.0).  [Yes, DOS was bad!]  My previous employer decided to go for ArcInfo—$AUS 45,000—and they have not managed to win any contracts.

“[We] have just signed a contract to study losses of seagrass and beaches around [a large Australian coastal city].  TNTmips has been a fundamental tool in allowing us to win  this project and I have made sure at conferences and meetings that the name of your company and its excellent products have been touted.  We are now using your products to process aerial photography, airborne hyperspectral imagery (HYMAP and CASI), satellite data (Hyperion, MODIS, and QuickBird II) and combine this with ground training using GPS, lots of terrestrial and marine diving (yes I do get wet).

“I have had a few glitches with TNTmips particularly with vector analyses (Illegal inode Specified) – but have learnt how to edit the “ini” file to overcome this problem.  I admit to falling back to Intellicad when I need to do some CAD work – but the DXF import to TNTmips makes this fairly seamless.

“Just completed a 21 class feature map (based upon airphotos and HYMAP data) covering 10 by 8 km at 1 meter resolution, mapping seagrasses, sediments feature, mangrove and salt marsh vegetation – classification process using TNTmips worked beautifully – seriously big file!!!

“Look forward to continuing a good supplier/customer relationship and when the time comes that I am able to send you info on my use of your software I will do so (issues of contracts and intellectual property at the moment).”

Email from USA on 28 July 2003

[from a former client in South Africa who is now a graduate student in the USA]

“I see that you have the University of California listed as a user.  Could you tell me who they are?  I would like to link up with them.

“I previously used TNTmips in South Africa with [a name].  Unfortunately ESRI is the flavor of the month around here, but does not quite taste that great in my mouth!!!!”

Email to Germany on 24 July 2003

[Large complex SML scripts are possible.  This is from MicroImages’ software support to a student at a German University who has written a large SML script as his Masters thesis project.  This script called LandsatCalibrationPilot.sml calibrates Landsat images to reflectance and is available from the microimages.com script exchange.]

“Though I haven’t been able to look extensively at your script (it is a bit overwhelming at ~90,000 lines and 4MB), I thought I might offer a suggestion.  I imagine that debugging your script, in general, is a difficult task just given the size of the file.”  [continues on with some suggestions from MicroImages support with regard to script structure]

From a FAX from Europe on 22 September 2003

[from a national agricultural organization that is familiar with TNTmips and has just recently ordered several units]

“ESRI.  Looks like we are giving up totally on ArcInfo in [named organization].  At least we are at the moment radically minimizing the amount of A/I licenses.”

From MicroImages Resellers

Extracted from an international email on 16 May 2003

“Today I presented the atlas that is related to the [a name] Landslide project.  [A name] personnel got quite enthusiastic about it.  I do not know the practical meaning of that could be at least they installed both TNTmips and TNTatlas and have started playing with it!  I also think that the ArcInfo local representative liked the way it is running…”

Extracted from an international email on 6 June 2003

“… where I plan to contact in an “intelligent” manner all the municipal planning offices here around [here] (about 150 municipal administrations), because I see with much less features and competences… Just to have an imagine about the technical level: there is a “GIS” software producer [a company name] that proudly announces that with its last release (9.0) it’s now possible “to convert maps from one coordinate system to another”!!!  It’s incredible!  Chapeau!  Once, I lost a call for tenders against them, and I didn’t digest the matter…”

Extracted from an international email on 13 June 2003

“For your further information, the SML I am designing is for [a company name] aerial survey company who take about 30,000 images on a good day, and want an end-to-end system that streams these images through colour-balancing, edge-enhancement, trend-removal and cloud shadow removal.  The interface I am designing allows them to set up and test settings for these processes on a test image/s from the batch, write a batch file containing the desired settings, and batch processes the job with these settings. Obviously I would like the image loading and viewing in the application to be as slick as possible.  Each of the input images is already a composite colour image, but to process them they must be broken down into RGB components, but still displayed to the operator as a composite through the processing.  On the back of the SML I will be selling them several TNTviews to them to run the application.”

Extracted from an international email on 8 July 2003

“Beside that we have noticed that sdedit [Spatial Data Editor] now works much more reliably than ever before and if it crashes nearly no data is lost.  We have been able to work with the backup objects after a crash.  This helps us to have our work done much more efficiently than before.

“Thank you and the software engineers for their assistance, it is greatly appreciated.”

An international email of 5 August 2003

“I have attached a screenshot of a completed import job [from MapInfo] that took a little while [alas, 45 hours]—I thought you might be interested.  It is a layer of land parcels containing about 10 million objects [assumed to mean elements] and many millions of database records beneath.  I am tremendously impressed at how stable and reliable the software was through the import process.  I think it would have broken many others.”

Extracted from an international email on 6 October 2003

“I can safely say as far as GIS and RS in [our nation] is concerned.  TNTmips is the package of choice.  We continue to support the users here, and they are the ones really undertaking meaningful GIS/RS projects.”

Extracted from an international email on 6 October 2003

[from a dealer with 3 software engineers developing an application with TNTsdk, the project was initiated by sending the lead software engineer to work/consult at MicroImages office for 2 weeks.]

“Hi, our project is a good way.”

“We have done a big exhibition 2 weeks ago: [exhibition] annual meeting in Barcelona to present [our company], TNTmips, and [our development].  I think we’ve done the good choice using MicroImages SDK to develop our tools.”

Extracted from an international email on22 October 2003

[with reference to a prominent university currently using MicroImages Special Academic License with 5 seats and planning now to expand it to 8]

“Regarding the University of [a name]: I have to talk to them about the license configuration tomorrow.  As the staff member told me their institute is asking for funding of [a project] and is not sure they will get the funding.  The good news from their institution was that he told me that Arcview does not play any role any longer at their institute.  Both research and education are based on TNTmips/TNTlite.  We are going to send them a package of 20 TNTlite CDs next week.”

Extracted from an international email on 22 October 2003

“And it seems to be the moment to say thank you to all of you at MicroImages, especially you and Ron, who made the [a name] sale possible.  [The client] is a very challenging client, but our joint effort showed him that we could handle those sales.  Thank you very much!”

Extracted from an international email on 22 November 2003

“The new features in 6.9 look great too.  I think that improvement of having a hand cursor appear over hyperindex areas is a superb feature—it is something we have been asked about too.  My key developer is really keen on the ActiveX call backs in SML too because it will really help the merging between the GIS/Image Processing expertise and IT/components for the larger system jobs.”

Extracted from an international email on 23 December 2003

“I will like to take this opportunity to thank you all for the support and help provided along last year.  It has been a great experience to work with the MI team, and have a good software product, but specially have the confidence of having a group of people behind it, that develop and supports the product.  This makes to the ones at the other end, to feel confident to promote and sale the TNT products.”

From TNTlite users

Extracted from email from the USA 13 May 2003

[from a beginning user]

“I guess it would be very nice to have the professional TNT in the near future.  Since I’m just starting to familiarize with the software, though, I’ll spend a few days with the Lite version, making sure that I have the basic knowledge of the software.  I was trained in ArcView 3.2….  TNT does not seem to be so different, right?”

Comment from a registration from Greece on 13 May 2003

“I am postgraduate student at the university mentioned above and I am interested in learning how to use GIS programs, especially yours.  It will help me complete my master and later my PhD thesis.  I would like to take this opportunity to thank you in advance.”

Extracted from email from the USA on 17 June 2003

“First of all, I would like to tell you how impressed I am with this new version of TNTmips.  It feels much smoother, and looks great.”

Extracted from email from Australia on 5 July 2003

“I’ve used [TNTlite] briefly through my education period.  It was handed to us as a promotional piece of software, to take home and test for our own personal use, in college our predominantly used package was ARC-INFO to which I find similar with TNTmips.

“My employment is currently with [a local government].  Our unit’s main focus is geared towards managing Councils infrastructure assets in its entirety, such as Bridges, parks, Stormwater, Roads, etc.  What we are hoping would come out of our latest R & D attempts is to obtain a package that will reasonably attempt to Value and Spatially maintain these assets in a way suitable to our needs.  The valuation and spatial components does not have to flow through the same application, it is however our preference to do so.

“The usability of TNTmips lite was pretty impressive and I remembered it recently with the up-come of this R & D exercise.  I told the powers that be about this software and they were very inquisitive about this application.”

Comment from a registration from a Museum in Denmark on 12 July 2003

“I have used the TNTlite for years in my work as an astronomical and archaeological consultant.  We do not operate with huge numbers of data, so the program is very well tailored for us.”

From a Massachusetts student’s weblog (and a Mac user) on 4 August 2003

“The second, ESRI’s Geography Network allows for the exploration of additional mapping and GIS concepts via the online ArcExplorer application, coupled to a broad range of free data [but not on his Mac!].  More adventurous readers may want to try their hand at using a full-blown GIS application, the free cross-platform TNTlite.  TNTlite is a very powerful, but quite complex, piece of software; fortunately, the program is accompanied by a generous complement of tutorials that constitute one of the best introductions to GIS I have ever encountered.  These tutorials can be digested in small bites, with good rewards at each stage—I would strongly recommend starting at the first one, and progressing through the set.”

Comment from a registration from Nevada on 18 August 2003

“I am a middle school teacher and I wish to use this excellent software with my students.  I used to use TNTmips as an exploration geologist finding tons and tons of gold and loved it!”

From Other Parties

Extracted from an international email on 29 August 2003

[The party sending this email to a reseller represents an organization similar to a county government in the United States.]

“Just a quick follow up on our evaluation of the TNTmips Professional package which you kindly arranged for us.  While we were unable, due to time constraints at our end, to have the package set up on a server with multiple users we did have sufficient time to assess the product on a stand-alone machine.  In summation, we found it to have a high level of functionality, particularly in the areas of file conversion, data analysis and the presentation of raster-based models.

“The situation here is that our organization already has the ESRI suite of products used by our GIS Mapping Unit, however there is currently no spare capacity to use for our own purposes, without further significant expenditure on additional licensing to increase concurrent users.  We do already use MapInfo [in our group] for a couple of task-specific activities here in our section but don’t believe it has the capability to support our business needs into the future and therefore have not considered this point.

“We are now arranging opportunities in-house to assess the ESRI product’s application to our own business needs in terms of functionality vs. ongoing licensing costs etc.  In short, we did not want to blindly signup to increasing our licensing of this product without fairly comparing it with your own.  I will let you know of our decision based on our testing in the coming weeks.”

Network Chatter

question posted on the ERDAS discussion list on 9 May 2003.  by Paul Beaty paul@arch.gatech.edu

“Requesting knowledge and opinions.

“Although we currently use MrSID Generation 2 extensively, we’re preparing to switch to a JPEG2000 product supporting geographic tags.  We are planning to use GeoJP2 from Mapping Science http://www.mappingscience tags.  We have leaned away from MrSID Generation 3 because of the LizardTech’s new pricing policy, and away from ER Mapper’s ECW because we need a product supported by the original software vendor, not a 3rd party tool.  Since we are primarily an ERDAS and ESRI shop, these are our primary concern.  Nethertheless, we use other products and support groups with other products, and are concerned about the move in the GIS industry as a whole.

“Here is what we currently know about GeoJP2:

“Products that support JPEG2000 products, but not JP2 yet, include MapInfo, Z/I products, TNT (MicroImages).

“Here are 3 questions I’d like feedback on:

“1) Have any of you ERDAS-1 users started investigating GeoJP2?

“2) Does anyone know of ENVI, Smallworld, and/or Bentley’s plans?

“3) Does anyone know if data vendors are planning to use any 2:1 lossless compression like “JPEG2000?

“Finally, your thoughts if you have a moment.

“Thank you in advance.”

Paul W. Beaty, Jr.

Center for Geographic Information Systems

Georgia Institute of Technology

276 Fifth Street, 2nd Floor

Atlanta, Georgia, 30332-0695

(404)385-0909

FAX (404)385-0450

Response posted on the ERDAS discussion list on 29 May 2003.  by Paul Beaty paul@arch.gatech.edu

“Thank you to Evan, Jay, and others for their thoughts concerning JPEG2000.

“It seems people are in the same boat as I, studying the prospect of moving into the JPEG2000 (my slang – JP2K) and possibly GeoJP2 direction.  My research has not uncovered a “free” tool for the MS Office products that supports JP2K.  Moreover, Microsoft will follow their old path of allowing some one else to blaze the trail.  Adobe Photoshop already supports JP2000.  I hope someone works with Photoshop so they will not kill the GeoJP2 map tags like they kill the GeoTIFF tags.

“Except for ENVI looking at GeoJP2, and Space Imagining listed as a user on the MappingSciences.com web site, I have not been able to determine 1, 2, and 3 in the original thread [above].

“Overall, I am seeing a user community showing more interest in JPEG2000 than the developer community.  This may be because JP2K libraries are not free, as are the JPEG libraries of old.  Until JP2K hits a certain money threshold, some developers will sit and wait.  Fortunately for the GIS community … ERDAS, ESRI, and other GIS application developers are more forward thinking that non-GIS developers, like Microsoft.”

Statement posted on macrumors.com, sometime in June 2003

[http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/topic/22389-1.html]

“Originally posted by altair Wow, what GIS apps are you running on a Mac? I am just so used to running ArcView 8 on a pc that I didn't think I had an option. You using GRASS? I am also a student, minoring in GIS, and would love a way to use it on a Mac, please explain. Thanks ~altair

Response posted on macrumors.com, sometime in June 2003

[http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/topic/22389-1.html]

“I would heavily suggest looking into TNTmips by MicroImages. They make a FREE version of TNTmips for students like myself that has all the functionality of a full blown vector/raster GIS called TNTlite (it has a few size restrictions however). It's free, easy to use, has a plethora of tutorials to help you, and I like it much better than the Arc products and even GRASS. In fact, I'm using it for my Master's thesis right now. I would definitely give it a try. It runs in the new X11 program that Apple came out for UNIX programs, since it is natively a UNIX based GIS like GRASS.”

Email on 31 July 2003

[From a former Ph.D. staff member who departed 6 years previous and is now in a Department of Neurology in Texas.] 

“Being a former employee of yours, I have followed the development of TNTmips on the Macintosh platform and am glad to see that it continues to enjoy great support from you.  I wanted to let you know that I just read an article about the TNT products supporting the 64-bit Panther OS on the MacCentral website.  Hopefully, this will generate additional interest in your product and your company can continue to grow.  Good luck in the future.”


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