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28 September 2000 >Testimonials and other Tidbits (V6.40)The following are some of the complimentary written comments and related interesting items received at MicroImages during the last semester exactly as provided except for the edit alterations in [brackets] to keep them anonymous where necessary. Many more comments are received by MicroImages by voice but cannot be reproduced here verbatim as quotes. Please note that these quotations are not edited from their original form in spelling, grammar, punctuation, and so on. From MicroImages clients using TNT professional productsExtracted from email from Russia on 20 April 2000. “I was out of the office this week because of taking part in Geoinformatics in Oil and Gas exhibition. There were several guys from ZabSybGeoSiemka company (western Siberian Geological Survey). They reported about using TNTmips in raster mosaicking (product was sold to Kemerovo 2 two years ago). I have also found something interesting in a Russian GIS Overview magazine (the source is the same people). Here is a brief translation: ‘Image correction and mosaicking was done using TNTmips 5.9 (MicroImages, Inc.). Previously we have tested several software tools such as ERDAS, ErMapper, and ENVI. Finally we have decided to use TNTmips since it is the only software that provides all necessary tools to process images that do not have survey information attached (there are great archives of such images in Russia). ERMAPPER and ENVI just require information, related to flight and camera parameters and ERDAS also does not provide easy ways to omit it. In TNTmips, the only thing you have to do is to georeference images and the system creates a mosaic of very high quality (using contrast and color fitting tools). There is a sample of mosaic of 12 images (1:50,000 scale) for Kuznetsk Alatau (south-west Siberia).’ Finally they vectorized some geological structures over created mosaic. Unfortunately I did not tell [talk] to this people since I got this information when the forum is over. All this sounds really good to me and probably is interesting for MicroImages.” Extracted from email from Russia on 20 April 2000. “I will be finishing my last class in a series of four ESRI-focused GIS classes (internet GIS and the wonderful world of developing in ESRI Mapobjects ;\-) When this is over I’d like to get back to using mips for my GIS work. It’s really much nicer in many ways. In addition, I am interested in helping MicroImages as much as I can during my studies in GIS.” Extracted from email from Romania on 9 May 2000. “Looking back at it, MIPS was a wise choice for our department here. In different projects, we had contact with MapInfo, ArcView, PCI Easi/Pace, and several others, and none looked as complete and well integrated as MIPS.” Extracted from email from the USA on 8 May 2000. “By the way, I used the resulting DEM (a mountaintop with deep valleys carved by former glaciers) along with a soviet 1.5 meter pan view, colorized with IndiaSat colors (25 m resolution?) to create spectacular 3D perspective views from numerous points on the mountain. [The DEM was prepared in TNTmips from the contours in a 7.5' USGS topographic map.] My client who plans to hike the mountain in the Summer, was thrilled with the snapshot views thus generated. The views are already helping him to understand the terrain much better than with the original map and satellite products.” “The students in my class at the University of [a name] are becoming impressed with TNTlite (and TNTmips). We even discovered some processes where TNT is obviously superior to ERDAS Imagine, one of the software operated by the GIS department there. They love the ease of operation and the ability to have TNTlite at home for free, rather than coming in to the University and trying to use the department computers when classes are not in session. You may have some customers as a result. They are also thinking of lobbying the department into getting $4K keys for some project uses.” Extracted from email from South Africa on 18 May 2000. “6.3 delivered Tuesday—always feels like Xmas when the box arrives and takes quite a while to digest all the info therein!” Extracted from email from Germany on 8 June 2000. “Thank you very much for the final two CDs. Now all technical work has been concluded and we are delivering our TNTatlas. We are very pleased about the professional demand. The customers are interested in the data, maps etc. as well as in the technical realization.” “Concerning the data, the CD gives comprehensive information on regional and structural relationships. It was our concept to collect only information (maps, point data, interpretations) that already existed and display it all in one system. When we carried this work out and showed it to the scientists they recognized mistakes, developed new ideas and made it the subject of new discussions. Hence, the developing cycle of the project increased a lot. Finally, with your and MicroImages support we achieved a good quality product, and our bosses and customers appreciate that.” “We received many comments comparing TNTatlas with other products, and in particular those from ESRI. Technicians and managers are surprised about the low overall costs, the quality and capability of the TNT family. As far as we can see, many organizations are considering a shift to MicroImages.” “We would be very please if MicroImages could benefit from our project as well.” Written on an order for upgrading a TNTmips system in Canada on 14 June 2000. “Thanks for your prompt response and all your help over the past few days. You guys are light-years ahead of other GIS companies when it comes to service and support.” Extracted from an email exchange with software support from Canada on 14 June 2000. “Are you referring to the
TNT database on your suggestion? As I said the file is too big
(815,509 records) to work with any programs that I have other than TNT.
The data was purchased from the [a provincial
government] and my objective is to import it into TNT and use it
as one of my map layers for some resource maps that I am creating (once the
grid is developed). I have imported the data with no problem
...” [continues on to describe a problem
that was actually in a data field, which could be solved using a computed
field.] Extracted from an email exchange with software support from Australia on 19 June 2000. “I’m an old microBRIAN user and have dabbled with ENVI and ERMAPPER which have their strengths but just as many weaknesses. I am VERY impressed with the mips system especially its classification set - if I can only get past these hiccups.” Extracted from email from Canada on 26 June 2000. “...MicroImages new web site looks great and the left margin index list is very useful!” Email from the USA on 5 July 2000. “Thought the attached paper would illustrate the fact that most people still think that integration of raster and vector data structures within a GIS is still a topic of research, instead of a software program sold by MI called TNTmips!” [Attached was a copy of a paper delivered at the ASPRS 2000 Annual Meeting in Washington, DC entitled Integration of Vector and Imagery Data - Issue and Experiences by Eugene J. Rose, Senior Systems Engineer, Sensor Systems Incorporated, 103A Carpenter Drive, Sterling, Virginia 20164 ] Extracted from email from Australia on 7 July 2000. “After a long period of
hassle free use of MIPS (I use it almost daily!) I have run into a
problem....please can you help?” [Continues
on with a question, which was not an error.] Extracted from email from the USA on 4 July 2000. “I am an associate to [a name]. I just published a web page on the update of a project we are working. I included an image of TNTmips in the page. ... [We thought] you might be delighted to know it because TNTmips will get publicity through our international network. (The info on the web site was sent to all participants in GeoInformatics2000 Conference.)” “After [we] gave a presentation at the at the conference and I met a couple of people who expressed that they have determined to purchase TNTmips for their offices. One of them is the Association of [a name] and the other one is from Taiwan.” “The audience saw the capabilities of TNTmips functions in our study while they also saw the not-so-exciting functions (and sometimes incapabilities) with image processing in ArcView on which I made another presentation in the same session.” “Please feel free to link to our URL.” Extracted from an international email on 13 July 2000. “The [a name] project is going on and on, but slowly like everything [complicated]. The GIS staff has finished digitizing map layers from IRS [Indian Resource Satellite] for one [state]. Now they are working on other [states in the nation]. Also they have finished the big [a name] project for measurement of school locations in [the state]. These locations were linked to school and students database in our GIS.” “Now we have for the first time a complete database suitable for school site planning. By combining satellite basemap, digitized layers and school locations, we produced maps showing the distribution of schools and unserved areas. Bar graph pinmaps were used to display the attributes like capacity and enrollment rates.” “This year the network analysis and TNTlink were introduced. Network analysis helps to find the best location for new school construction projects and minimize schoolways. We introduced TNTlink, to open CAD-drawings and images of the individual schools by mouse click on the school symbol.” “...” “This project will go on and on, we will see what new aspects the next phase of the project will bring. We hope also for additional funding from the World Bank. We did a PowerPoint project presentation with a lot of TNT XWDtiff screenshots for [an international aid group], WorldBank and other donors, and it seemed to impress.” “Of course, I have studied the TNTatlas samples on your web site. For a GIS project in [a state], we have complied a set of planning data covering a whole community area. Now I try to offer them a community planning GIS using TNTatlas. We will see.” Extracted from an international email on 13 July 2000. “Back from [a nation], full of new impressions, and glad to come back to TNTmips after two months of ERDAS Imagine and Arc/Info/ArcView. I have to admit that they improved since I last worked with them, but it is still far from the ease of TNTmips [and he had to use multiple products].” “Now there is 6.3, and congratulations, well done. There are several improvements, which I either asked for or thought of. Very nice. The QuickGuides are really nice. Most brilliant, however, is the streamlining of your price list, including the enormous reductions of UNIX prices. I sincerely hope that now the University or [a prominent name] will make up their mind to go for it.” Extracted from an international email on 24 July 2000. “I have requested this before and can only reiterate, would it not be possible to advise your clients of known problems?” [A list of all reported errors and their status as well as all new feature requests is provided for easy customer access at microimages.com.] “...” “We are happy with TNT products 99% of the time and would not consider changing to another GIS platform. It would be indicative of the good relationship between yourselves and your clients if you could make this information available to them.” Extracted from email from the USA on 27 July 2000. [From a copy of correspondence sent to us between a TNTmips user and someone else related to the wildfire at Los Alamos, NM.] “Of course the fly-bys were proof of concept only. I cut out and resampled the DEM we have for the [an area], as well as the IKONOS image, to include only [an area]. Structures [buildings] burned in this area as did both canyons to the north and south, so I though it would be a relevant example of what we could do for other sites or the entire lay/townsite.” “Note that ERDAS Imagine is $8K [and this is from GSA list] and it will cost another $4K to obtain the fly through capability. And that is about all we’ll be able to do with it.” “Whereas TNTmips is $5K [not on GSA list] and comes complete at that cost (there is no such thing as add on modules with TNTmips). With this code [in other words, product] we can process not only the required raster data sets (i.e. image and DEM) but also vector and CAD info, such as roads, streams, and facility outlines (building footprints, etc.)” “Are you still interested in helping us move a proposal to purchase of software via [a source].” Extracted from an international email on 2 August 2000. “Had a meeting with rep from AutoCAD today—despite having given specific details of what we wanted to see (how MapGuide datasets put together and distributed), all we got was a wishy-washy chat about how AutoCAD is the fastest and greatest. Not even a demo! He went on about their new product AutoCAD 2000i and waxed lyrical about how you can hyperlink from a drawing to a website—he was not amused when I told him that you guys had this functionality ages ago! However, in this new product there is a pretty neat feature called AutoCAD Today—‘a window into Autodesk point A, the new content-rich and industry specific Autodesk Internet Design Portal’—probably have this stuff on their website (I have not checked). It seems as if this is like a bulletin board—users log on and post various entries—tips and tricks etc. Meet Now is a neat gizmo to have a meeting where all are looking at a drawing with one person driving and the updates are seen live and eTransmit where live drawings are posted to each other. They appear to have increased performance significantly—file I/O up 29%, display up 39% and so on.” “Have dug around a few more MapGuide sites—what a generally frustrating experience—we really are way ahead, and the only potential negative is the speed (yes, buy more bandwidth!) and interactive info tips (I still think this is a necessity).” “So to all the thinkers, developers and writers and anyone else I have left out from the MI team, keep up the good work and keep the product WAY ahead of the pack. Us users do appreciate it even though we may moan a lot. Just wish there was more money to show how far ahead TNTmips really is (not that CAD is competition!).” Extracted from email from India on 3 August 2000. “Thank you very much for supplying the replacement of our defective MicroImages Key. I have tested the key and it is working well. I convey my sincere thanks to you for providing this key in a very short period. We are grateful for the support provided to us by you and Physical Planning Consultants Limited, Calcutta [a MicroImages dealer] and hope that this spirit will continue in the future also.” Extracted from email from Germany on 22 August 2000. “We are happy to inform you that our groundwater atlas proved to be very successful. Many version have been sold to governmental geo-institutions, consultants, universities, and schools. We presented the geological and technical features at different places.” “For the next time a new atlas will be developed. Recently, geochemists are collecting and analyzing data from water and stream sediments in Germany. However, [we] and other suppliers of data and maps are concerned about the protection of the data. The current version of TNTatlas gives any user with a TNTmips license access to all original data [and its export]. This is a strong argument against using TNTatlas.” [With the release of V6.40, geodata prepared in TNTlite can be used in TNTmips. The above request is the reverse of this geodata locking, namely to control which TNT product can be used with a specific Project File(s). Working with this client and their need, MicroImages is currently adding a feature so that only TNTatlas can use the Project Files provided with it. This approach will be generalized further so that each Project File can be set so that it specifies which TNT products can access it. For example, you may desire that only a TNTview (which cannot export), TNTserver, or an SML-based product can use specific Project Files.] Extracted from a response on a MapInfo List on 21 August 2000. [This MicroImages client was responding to a question with regard to MapInfo.] “Lets sometime talk about the wonderful synergy between TNTmips from MicroImages and MapInfo. This is a GIS powerhouse combo unlike anyone ever put together (and still much cheaper than a single fully castrated ArcInfo 8 License but with the utility of the ArcInfo 8 add-on modules).” From MicroImages dealersExtracted from a FAX on 8 May 2000. “The last Friday I pick up the hardlock key, so I did the installation and the key work very good. I want to thank to MicroImages for all support give me. Is amazing the fast like all the questions and duties had answer at short time.” Extracted from a FAX on 5 June 2000. “Respecting to new release (TNTmips 6.3), is great the news about all platforms had the same price with all support to device (except to P15 support), specially UNIX platforms, we don’t found any professional software at UNIX with this price wit all features included (not modular); a few days ago I received a e-mail from a newsgroup of ArcView users where a Colombian ArcView user didn’t happy about the price of ArcView from TNTmips professional, once I checked this reality I said that ESRI professional products are a monster, monster? Yes, monster in price, monster in size, monster in hardware and software requirements.” Extracted from a FAX on 3 July 2000. “We found the ‘problem’ with SUSE 6.4 [a LINUX variety], so basically are a libraries that didn’t install with standard option, we include the option developer, so after we download TNT 6.3 and the final result is very good, recently we visited the local government showing TNTmips 6.3 at Windows and SUSE LINUX and TNTmips at 6.2 at Windows (export/import process) the manager and all present people were very surprising by all features. The manager was leader in the GIS project of [a major city] when I worked at [a company], so he see TNTmips like a great alternative to apply to different towns to new project of GIS at all around department.” Extracted from email on 25 July 2000. “Yesterday I rang up [an international client]. He is very enthusiastic about the TNT-Products (I think you know this already) and is willing to give us any support possible. This may include Power Point presentations of [his] projects (nice for next fair) and joined press information.” Extracted from email on 28 July 2000. “The other thing is a statement of a user of TNTlite from an authority [municipal] also using Bentley Microstation on a 486 DX2/66 MHz PC with 128 MB RAM; he told me that TNTlite is much more faster than Microstation. Compliments to the software engineers of MicroImages!” From TNTlite usersExtracted from email from Canada on 23 May 2000. “I downloaded TNTlite and it looks great.” Extracted from unknown nation on 6 July 2000. “Hi, I’ve downloaded your wonderful TNTlite and I’ve been playing with it to see the many possibilities.” Email from India on 12 July 2000. “Thanks a lot of sending the CD of TNTlite to me. It was really very helpful for my project. Also I am very much fascinated by the flexibility of the software. It was really great working with the software. With the help of that I was able to get the highest in the project evaluation. Sir, a small query. Is there any software company in India which is presently working of GIS? If yes, can you please inform me about their names. I will be grateful to you in that regard.” Email from Great Britain on 21 July 2000. “I was chatting with a lecturer from [a] University who has used mips for some work with Shell—he found it to be powerful, particularly as he was able to custom build a user interface on the client data to suit them using mips.” Comments from students in a spring 2000 university GIS course. “The software package was great. I would greatly support the college purchase a full version for student access.” “TNTlite software is great. We can work with it a home, unlike some of the other GIS software used at [our University].” “The TNT software is very versatile and easy to use. Having a chance to be introduced to another software package has been extremely helpful. TNT is a great package. Purchase it for student use!” “Again, TNT available for student use at home.” “Home use of TNTmips software [actually TNTlite] has been wonderful. GIS program should consider this approach due to the availability concerns and associated nuisances [of the competitive package that the program currently uses].” Network Chatter[Few of the questions and answers in any of the following network exchanges were made by MicroImages’ clients. In fact, MicroImages does not know most of these people and has not had any direct contact of any kind with them. Subsequently, several have contacted us and purchased TNT professional products.] Question posted on comp.infosystems.gis on 25 April 2000. “Hello! I am a graduate student taking a GIS course. At school we use Maptitude for the PC, but at home I have a Mac. IS there GIS software for the Mac that is comparable to what I am using at school?” Response posted on comp.infosystems.gis from unknown on 25 April 2000. “if you plan on getting a job in the GIS industry, you need to learn to use a PC. In all my years in the industry, I have never heard of anyone using a Mac for any type of analysis or GIS work. With the exception of multimedia and graphics arts type businesses, you will find very few businesses using Macs. Now is the time to make the switch. I was in the same position as you when I finished school, but I had no problem making the transition.” Response posted on comp.infosystems.gis on 28 April 2000. “Perhaps you need to get out and about more! ‘never heard of anyone using a Mac’” “TNT is a powerful GIS which is available for Mac, Linux and also Wintel. Details at http://www.microimages.com.” “Many many users on all platform.” “MapInfo is allegedly working on a new version for the Mac—to take advantage of the new G4 kit—which far out runs the ‘fastest’ PIII 1Ghz chips from AMD/Intel.” “ArcInfo (you have heard of ESRI haven’t you?) ;-) has had a solution on the Mac for a while in any event. I think.” “That said—knowledge of all the computer platforms is a good thing, so getting to know windows shouldn’t do you too much harm. Just think upside down!” [This respondent is not a client and is unknown to MicroImages.] Question posted on arcview@listbot.com on 16 June 2000. “Can folks please send me any links on leads on some sort of image processing software which happens to be free? I’m not sure if any exists, but would love to find out.” “Specifically, if the software is free and can handle any one of the many different image file formats, I would like to hear about it. I can’t afford Image Analyst, and am hoping to cobble something together which will make ‘pretty pictures’ for my boss.” Summary posted on arcview@listbot.com on 16 June 2000. “Hi list, I got some great responses to my request for image processing freeware. The responses are reproduced below, big thanks to everyone who sent me info! I have not tried all the software listed below, I will try and sum my reviews when I do so.” [Actually, very few responses were summarized.] “You can download MultiSpec from Purdue University at the following site:” “http://dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu/~biehl/MultiSpec/” “Also if your imagery is not too complex you can download a free version of TNTmips called TNTlite from” “http://www.microimages.com/products/” “Be sure to try MicroImages TNTlite, which you can download for free. MicroImages was rated as the top image processing package for functionality and cost. It also integrates GIS, and is able to import, export, and edit ESRI files.” Posted on arcview@listbot.com by Bruce Rindahl on 17 June 2000. “For all of you who were wondering if Avenue has much of a future, the official response from Jack Dangermond himself is ------ ‘No Comment’.” “Seriously, ESRI now has a site where numerous user questions are answered by the owner of ESRI himself. The site is” “http://www.esri.com/event/uc/surveyanswers/letter_questions.html” “and there is a lot of information about the future of ESRI. One of the questions specifically is what is the future of AML and Avenue and you can read his response. The answer is AML will be supported in ArcInfo 8. That’s it, no mention of Avenue. Other questions ask about migrating existing ArcView projects to ArcView and the response is work is ongoing so that existing ArcView 3.x projects will ‘just work’ in ArcView 8. I don’t know what ‘just work’ means but it doesn’t sound good.” “More to the point, if and when we migrate to ArcView 8, all the work, scripts, extensions, etc will have to be ported. I am not a VB [Visual Basic] programmer (yet) so I hope forums of this type can be a resource to convert Avenue to Visual Basic. Any ideas, suggestions, thoughts, etc. on this issue? I would love to see how some Avenue scripts can be done in VB to help my migration. There is a ton of knowledge on this forum and I hope we can all utilize it during this migration process.” Response on arcview@listbot.com by Neil Havermale on 16 June 2000. “Thanks for the link. Very scary....” “Sounds like a problem is brewing for we ArcView developers. Have we been sent down the wrong street (or was that avenue)? And you thought you had problems with the cost of a Spatial Analyst upgrade?” “Then I also saw that ArcExplorer is now 100% JAVA based—you know that the free ArcView ‘viewer’ follow-on that replaced the original ArcView 1.0 freebie. What does this mean? Looks like the Avenue group is about to have to buy into Jack’s and Bill’s VisualBasic thing for AkeInfo 8.0 or do JAVA?” “So is the ‘Basic’ approach to mapping now vogue? I wonder what all the AML developers and University programs sitting in front of their Suns are thinking—LINUX and Grass, now that’s an answer..., ‘I don’t want no more stink’in Microsoft VB solutions on my machine.’ Anyone see Microsoft’s MapPoint lately?” “And what about JAVA? Too easy, Mate, just invest in MapXtream Java edition—100% compliant to JAVA specs and talks to Oracle’s 8i via Oracle’s much lower cost Spatial Cartridge—SDE you got to be kidding? Whoops I forgot—just use SDE-Lite (the freebie with ArcInfo 8.0) and Access.” “What does ArcInfo 8.0 cost as compared to ArcView? This doesn’t seem right somehow? Don’t worry - ‘it will just work.’ Thanks Jack, I feel much better now.” Posted on comp.infosystems.gis by J.W. Dougherty on 20 June 2000. “Has anyone written an interface program for the Garmin 12 and Linux? I would like to be able to pull data off the GPS receiver into LINUX rather than booting to Win****” Response on comp.inofsystems.gis by Torcuill Torrance on 20 June 2000. “Have you had a look at MIPSLite for Linux? from http://www.microimages.com?” “It will also take care of the issues of what to do with the string of numbers as well!” [This is a TNTlite user only.] Posted on mapinfo-l@csn.net by Martin Hignam on 3 July 2000. “A client has a problem plotting 1500mm (=59") long PostScript plots on an HP1055 [with MapInfo]. The correct length of paper is produced but the printed output stops at 1170mm (=46").” “The plots are OK using HPGL/RTL on the HP1055 and are also OK using PostScript on an HP755. The HP1055 also produces long PostScript plots from software other than MapInfo. Any Ideas.” Response on mapinfo-l from a user in the USA of both MapInfo and TNTmips on 3 July 2000. “Welcome to a very irritating and persisting problem with MapInfo. I posted a similar message on 6/23 and got quite a few responses (By-the-way, thanks to all who responded). Some with advice, some with ‘learn to live with it’.” [continues on with a more detailed explanation of the problem] “My ultimate quest is to print a 24 GB (probably sampled down to 2.4 GB by increasing pixel size to 3 feet) countywide 40 X 24 mile ortho image for the entrance hall wall of the county courthouse, since an image such as this one, 6 X 9 feet, will do more for my future budgets than a dozen refereed articles in obscure journals.” “It appears that I might have to print this in TNTmips where I do not have these problems or heaven forbid in the new ArcInfo 8. Lets hope it does not have to come to this.” Comment via email on 25 July 2000. Sam is the GIS list manager at gisdevelopment.net. “Congratulations!! for launching multilingual TNTlite 6.3. This is a great news in itself and is certainly eligible for a big applause from the mapping community.” “I am writing to you from www.GISdevelopment.net, the first mapping sciences portal in Asia-Pacific region. We welcome you opinion about our web site. This unique and exclusive website is receiving an amazing response from the mapping community world over with page views shooting over 5000 every day and is expected to soar up further.” [www.gisdevelopment.net is a new site for GIS information and news currently covering Asia. Please visit this site. It is very well organized, compared to other sites, and accurate. The site provides a forum (in other words, list server) for the exchange of information with regard to GIS for the Asian region.] Posted on comp.infosystems.gis by Brad Smithers on 19 August 2000. “I’ve been evaluating GIS software off and on for the past two months, with very little success. Here are my requirements, which I thought wouldn’t be too much to ask:” “-unlimited geocoding capability (no pay-per-geocode solutions, a la MapInfo)” “-unlimited mapping capability (no pay-per-map solutions, a la mapquest)” “-runs on Windows 2000 server” “-fairly complete programmatic interface (for example OLE automation) (Maptitude for the Web and MapPoint both fail this one)” “-good quality map output (jpg, png, etc.) (Maptitude for the Web output looks ‘iffy’ to me)” “-hopefully don’t break the bank (as in <$10k, <$5k would be better)” “-thin client output (no ActiveX only or java-only clients; plain gif, jpg, png output desired)” “My findings from evaluating some of the products (in case anyone is interested, or has differing viewpoints to add to the hopefully lively discussion to ensure ;-):” “-MapPoint—nice standalone product, but automation interface is crippled by inability to retrieve longitude + latitude from Location object” “-ESRI MapObjects IMS—can probably do what I want, but appears to be a dead end product; new path is ARC IMS (costs more, but architecture looks a bit better)—they aren’t keen on doing business with me apparently, haven’t been able to get an evaluation copy out of them, and I won’t sink $7500 on something that *might* work.” “-Maptitude for the Web—programmatic interface is very ugly—fat ASP code on top of tiny OLE Automation object which talks to app (probably via a buried DDE interface); map output not so hot; much of the code base appears very old (3-5 years)” “-Etak Map Server—$50l, say no more” “-MapInfo—geocoding solution is pay-per-geocode; very expensive (MapXSite + MapMaker + data)” “-Manifold—no geocoding, and stuff-everything-into-memory approach won’t work for web server (which is what I’m looking to use it for)” “-MapQuest—offer both hosted and dedicated solutions—both are extremely expensive” “-AltaMap Internet Server—no geocoding, no programmatic interface (I think)” “I looked at and dismissed a couple others outright because of lacking functionality, don’t recall the details...” “Anyone have any feedback / ideas?” “Thanks—Brad” 
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