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3 May 1999
Testimonials and other Tidbits (V6.10)
The following are some of the
complimentary written comments and related interesting items received at
MicroImages during the last quarter exactly as provided except for the
[edit] alterations in [brackets] to keep them anonymous where necessary.
Many more comments are received by MicroImages by voice but cannot be
reproduced here verbatim as quotes. Please note that these quotations are
not edited from their original form in spelling, grammar, punctuation, and
so on.
From GeoWorld
Magazine
What
follows are excerpts from a long, detailed article discussing 6 image
processing systems. The full article appears in the May 1999 issue of
GeoWorld, pages 36 to 46 and is titled "Image Processing Software:
System Selection Depends on User Needs", by W. Fredrick Limp, Director,
Center for Advanced Spatial Technologies, 12 Ozark Hall, University of
Arkansas, Fayetteville, AR 72701.
The image
processing products discussed in this article are TNTmips 6.0, ENVI
3.1, ERDAS IMAGINE 8.3.1, ER Mapper 6.0, Image Analyst 7.0, and PCI 6.3.
Extracts of the article which deal specifically with TNTmips and
TNTlite are quoted here with comments.
Major
sections of this article have been omitted. Copyright prevents the
reproduction of the whole article here, so please obtain a copy of it for
specific details and commentary, pros and con, on the other competing
products. If reprints of this article are purchased by MicroImages, they
will be included in our next mailing.
Fred
Limp, the author of this review, is Director of the Center for Advanced
Spatial Technologies at the University of Arkansas (CAST). A visit to the
CAST web site (http://www.cast.uark.edu/cast/info/labs.mgsl.equip.html) will
show that they report more than 50 workstations, peripherals, and software
systems are available, running primarily Intergraph’s MGE and image
processing software. The following additional software is listed as in
active use at CAST in varying numbers:
GRASS
4.1 Arc/Info rev 7.0 MapInfo 2.0 PCI 5.2 ERDAS
Imagine 8.1
IMPORTANT NOTE:
CAST does not use TNTmips, TNTlite, any of the TNT
products, or ENVI! As a university site, CAST would have access to ENVI and
ERDAS products at almost no initial cost.
"Software evaluations often involve creating a list of features to which
each package is compared, and the software with the longest list wins. But
that approach doesn’t consider how the real world works. If the same logic
was applied to automobiles, everyone would drive James Bond’s latest Aston
Martin, because it has the most cool gizmos. In the real world, however,
some people want pick-up trucks, some need six passenger sedans, and a few
(a very few) need Aston Martins with a Bond girl in the passenger seat."
"The
giant review list system also leads to bloated software–as developers
respond to ‘gotcha lists’ and their often unrealistic demands. Outside the
clean pages of a magazine review, software don’t fall into neat orderings
from best to worst. There can be turkeys as well as stars, but software are
designed with a particular target in mind, and they probably do that ‘thing’
really well. This is particularly true in the arena of image processing
software."
"Image
processing has moved from being a skill practiced by a few specialists to
something that can potentially be found on any user’s desktop. There are
many different types of sensor systems, many different domains in which
image processing is used and many different levels of use. Other key factors
are the size and complexity of the data that will be processed, and the
requirements of the image processing system to interoperate with other
systems. The real problem today isn’t to identify the ‘best’ image
processing system, but to find the best fit between users’ needs and
available systems, which is the goal of this review."
Multiple Data
Format Interoperability
"The
ability to handle needed data is essential. It may be that only one format
is critical, or many different datasets may be needed. Users may need to
access raster data, vector data or produce vector and raster output in
different formats. With several of the packages, it’s possible for a
competent programmer to develop routines that import or export data. But
this review only considers built-in capabilities."
"All
the software in this review import or read the standard remote sensing data
types. ENVI, in particular, expands this to cover several hyperspectral
sources (discussed in more detail on page 41). However, PCI, ER Mapper and
TNTmips have substantial raster and vector capabilities."
"For
example, in addition to options listed in the tables on pages 40, 42 and 43,
TNTmips also can import vector formats such as MIF/MID, MOSS, SIF,
BNA, TYDAC and VPF, and raster formats such as Laser-Scan, GRASS, EPPL7,
SPANS and others–a total of 58 formats, according to the manual.
[The tables and this paragraph do not
mention the important MapInfo TAB format which TNTmips imports].
PCI, through its GeoGateway module, clearly has focused on interoperability,
going beyond import/export to read and write capabilities for several
different data formats in their native structures. This ability can be
important, because multiple software can use the same data without having to
create different versions through an import."
"Bottom line advantage for multiple data format interoperability: PCI and
TNTmips, with a nod toward ER Mapper."
[The
author has overlooked that a variety of formats can be linked to directly
and used by TNTmips processes without the need for importing. Also,
our editing procedures directly operate on popular vector formats such as
ESRI’s native coverage and shapefiles and MapInfo’s native TAB files.
TNTmips 6.1, issued after this review, imports several popular types of
hyperspectral images such as AVIRIS and even imports hyperspectral images
from the ENVI format, but ENVI does not import from our format.]
Visual Display
and Enhancement
"One
of the more common and important image processing operations is the visual
display and enhancement of images on a computer screen. Applying different
filters and other methods to highlight otherwise hidden aspects of an image
can play a critical role in analyses. All the packages provide solid basic
tools for routine image display, enhancement and filtering. ERDAS has a nice
ability to display multiple views (with different zooms, etc.) of the same
dataset while changes can be reflected in another window."
"Bottom line advantage for visual display and enhancement: Too close to call
(possibly a slight nod to ERDAS)."
[TNTmips
certainly has the multiple view window and interview operability. TNTmips
and TNTview provide all these features of ERDAS and many more that
ERDAS does not!]
Classification
Methods and Procedures
"Effective classification procedures are key to any image processing package
that handles multispectral data. Historically, the procedures have been
grouped into two classes: supervised and unsupervised. Supervised
classification typically involves users defining target areas onscreen
(e.g., a corn field) and ‘asking’ the software to identify spectrally
‘similar’ pixels. Unsupervised classification typically involves the
automatic creation of spectral grouping that are ‘similar’ in a statistical
sense. Users then assign an information class (label) to each grouping.
Modern practices are expanding and blurring this distinction, but it’s a
useful starting point."
"All
the packages have more-than-adequate basic classification capabilities. If
that’s satisfactory for the job, then any package is a good choice. There’s
variation in the packages, however, in how users can influence and/or
control the classification process and assess the results. But it’s beyond
the scope of this review to compare and contrast the various methods. The
key point for prospective users is to carefully assess the types of
classification methods needed, and examine each package with those needs in
mind. Also, there are a range of newer techniques to be considered,
including fuzzy and neural-net classifiers, K means, step-wise linear
discriminate functions and others."
"Bottom-line advantage for classification methods and procedures: All are
adequate for basic classification work. ERDAS IMAGINE, PCI and ENVI have
particularly extensive options. TNTmips provides the broadest range of
classifiers in its basic package."
Rectification
and Geometric Registration
"The
association of geographic coordinates to imagery matrices is a critical
process, and there are several methods that can be applied. Some processes
may involve an understanding of the location properties of the sensor
(aircraft or satellite), and other methods use known locations of points and
compute a transformation to change the image points to the known locations.
This process is particularly challenging, when imagery is produced from an
aircraft, because aircraft regularly move in three dimensions. Completely
different algorithms are needed to properly process this type of sensor
data."
"In
addition, creating a seamless image from aerial sensors can be challenging
for multispectral sensors, because aircraft may be flying one direction
(e.g., northwest) during one pass and an opposite direction (e.g.,
southeast) during the adjacent pass. In this case, the sun angle is
different and must be adjusted before effective area analysis can proceed. A
special case of this process is associated with creating orthophotos from
aerial photography, which is covered in the next section."
"In
general, there are three aspects to the rectification process: definition
and association of ground control points (GCPs), transformation of image
locations to ground locations, and resampling an image to a new structure.
All the packages do a more-than-adequate job of the traditional process of
locating points on an image and associating them with GCPs. And all packages
provide the basic transformation processes of first-, second- and
third-order transformations. ER Mapper, TNTmips and ENVI in their
base packages, and PCI and ERDAS IMAGINE in advanced packages, provide a
triangulation transformation that divides an image into small triangles and
applies different transformations to each triangle. This approach can be
effective for aircraft sensor data."
"Bottom-line advantage for rectification and geometric registration: No
clear differentiation."
Creating
Orthophotos
"Creating orthophotographs from aerial photography is an increasingly common
task. All the vendors can create orthophotos, but they do so in quite
different ways. Basic orthophoto creation is provided for in the ENVI, ER
Mapper and TNTmips packages and in the advanced ERDAS IMAGINE and PCI
packages. High-end, production orthophoto capabilities are available from
PCI, ERDAS and Intergraph, but with substantial price tags. ER Mapper,
though it doesn’t have some of the high-end orthophoto creation
capabilities, has a nice capability to generate seamless mosaics from
orthophotos (or similar imagery)."
"Bottom-line advantage for creating orthophotos: For basic orthophoto
capabilities: ENVI, ER Mapper and TNTmips. For high-end capabilities: PCI,
ERDAS IMAGINE and Image Analyst, with Image Analyst the common choice for
industrial users."
[But the
real task is the creation of DEMs. We in the United States seem to lose
track of the fact that most nations do not yet have the DEMs needed as input
to create orthophotos. The TNTmips process starts by creating DEMs
from stereo pairs. Some competing products do not create this important
product, and those that do require the very expensive add-on packages
created by some other companies. The comment on mosaicking is off-hand and
out of place, as it is not related to this topic. Several of the other
products have mosaicking capabilities which are not covered anywhere in this
article.]
Hyperspectral
Data Processing and Analysis
"Hyperspectral
data are of increasing interest within the remote sensing community. And
with new sensors coming soon, hyperspectral analysis will undoubtedly grow
in importance and use. Although there are various definitions, a common
current hyperspectral sensor is the Airborne Visible Infrared Imaging
Spectrometer (AVIRIS), which provides 224 tightly delimited spectral bands."
"In
some ways, hyperspectral analysis is ‘simply’ an extension of traditional
multispectral analysis (a position taken by ERDAS, for example). In other
ways, it introduces a different set of problems and opportunities. Because
of the larger number of bands, display and analysis of hyperspectral data
can be challenging. Hyperspectral analysis techniques include
multidimensional plots, the ability to set wavelength ranges and save image
spectra in a library, linear spectral unmixing, reflectance calibration and
spectral angle mapping."
"In
addition, it has become possible to create reference spectra for various
minerals and other materials. Unknown data can be compared to these
reference spectra for identification purposes. Two common sources of
reference spectra are the U.S. Geological Survey and NASA Jet Propulsion Lab
spectral libraries, which are provided by ERDAS, ENVI, PCI, and TNTmips."
"ENVI,
TNTmips, and PCI have a substantial emphasis on hyperspectral data,
ERDAS has less, and ER Mapper and Image Analyst have none. It seems clear
that ENVI currently has a dominant position in this area, and it provides an
extensive suite of tools to handle hyperspectral data. TNTmips also
has a good suite of tools for hyperspectral analyses. In fact, the free
version of TNTmips, TNTlite, can process and fully analyze
AVIRIS scenes."
"Bottom-line advantage for hyperspectral data processing and analysis: This
area will be one of great competition, but ENVI currently leads with TNTmips
second."
[Of
course, MicroImages thinks TNTmips is number one in this area and
incorporates all the hyperspectral processes in ENVI and some more they do
not provide. As noted, the price is also right as it is all free via
TNTlite.]
Usability,
Documentation and User Interface
"Documentation is a critical aspect of the usability of any software
product. Good documentation will increase productivity by minimizing the
time spent in incorrect processes and providing quick access to specific
information needed to complete a task. Also, users often complain that a
product ‘can’t do X’ when, in fact, the software can, but it’s not well
documented."
"The
user interface also is key to a software system’s usability. A well-designed
wizard system that prompts users for correct answers, or sometimes figures
the answers out, lessens the need for documentation. The user interface
issue, however, is more complex. Wizards can be effective for new users, but
they can get in the way of experienced users or ‘power’ users. Therefore, a
user interface should be considered from each perspective."
"In
addition, it’s not uncommon for software designers to complain that users
‘didn’t read the manual,’ and, having been involved in many software
development efforts, I certainly can appreciate this point of view. There’s
also often a ‘macho’ attitude toward interfaces: ‘I only need a command line
prompt, vi and awk–I don’t need wimpy wizards.’ This is particularly true
for software developed on UNIX platforms. As much as people like (or not
like) to be ‘real’ computer geeks, it’s clear that good interface design and
help systems dramatically increase user productivity, decrease training
costs and increase the potential market size for any product. Image
processing is a complex business, but it clearly can benefit from solid
interface design."
"The
documentation maximalist award winner was TNTmips–a small fork lift
dropped off two large boxes of information. One box contained three large,
three-ring binders (with an estimated 3,000 pages of text) and three small,
three-ring binders (with an estimated 900 pages of documentation). I say
estimated because each section of the manuals has its own numbering and
table of contents, but there’s no overall index or pagination. Users,
however, can access and search the online versions."
"The
larger manuals serve as the user’s manual, providing specifics on each
aspect of operation. The three smaller manuals explain concepts and process
sequences. In addition, there are excellent color images that show operation
results. The TNTmips documentation is thorough, and would be
excellent if it weren’t so difficult to find things (there are no indexes).
The online versions make global searching and discovery somewhat easier."
"TNTmips
has a wide range of GUI interfaces, but like most of the other multiplatform
packages, there’s no comprehensive wizard system. Work flow steps are well
outlined in the three ‘Getting Started’ manuals. In addition, TNTmips
has a batch jobs capability with a substantial amount of job control."
[The
"three Getting Started manuals" referred to above are the "three
small, three-ring binders" in which he was provided all 45 of the
printed Getting Started booklets.]
Value
"Value
is in the eye of the beholder–if a package does what users need, then it’s
clearly the most valuable for the user. But value also can be looked at from
some standard viewpoints. The first would be the cost to obtain basic
functionality. What’s basic is arguable, but it should include the
operations necessary to access and view data, perform basic classification
and output results. The next level of value (intermediate) includes more
advanced capabilities in each area, including modeling and operations such
as image mosaicking and creating good cartographic output. The next level
(advanced) would add the ability to process hyperspectral and radar products
and create orthophotography. There are other ways to slice the loaf, but
this seems fairly standard."
"The
best value in the pack is TNTlite, which includes the full range of
TNTmips capabilities but limits the dataset size and output options.
It’s free as a download, or it can be obtained for a modest cost. The
maximum dataset size is exactly that of a single AVIRIS scene, so if users
just need to perform AVIRIS analysis, then this package is the way to go."
[The word
modest is certainly an understatement, as the TNTlite CD cost of $10
and the kit cost of $50 seem very modest in comparison to the several
"entry level" products noted below with prices ranging from $2000 and up.]
"These
entry level versions, however, have substantially less functionality than
the next group, which includes TNTmips (prices range from $3,000 to
$6,000, depending on the screen resolution options selected), ENVI at
$3,300, ER Mapper at $4,300, ERDAS Advantage at $4,000, Intergraph’s Image
Station at $6,000 and the PCI EASI/PACE Image Processing Kit at $4,900. At
these prices, users get the complete versions of ENVI (excluding ENVI’s
programming language, IDL, which is an additional $1800), ER Mapper and
TNTmips. The ERDAS Image Station and PCI packages at these prices,
however, don’t include advanced classification and/or radar capabilities.
Therefore, users limited to this price range and need probably would prefer
the other packages."
"Bottom-line advantage for value: The best deal, no question, is TNTlite–it’s
free (but it’s only for small data sizes). At or less than $2,500, its a
‘toss-up’ between PCI and ERDAS. The $3,000 to $6,000 range is the market’s
‘sweet spot’ with a lot of choices. TNTmips gives users a complete GIS and
image processing package. In this price range, neither the ERDAS, Image
Station or PCI bundles have the range of capabilities that ENVI or ER Mapper
have. If users have a limited budget but need basic orthophoto and/or radar
functionality, then TNTmips, ENVI or ER Mapper may be better choices, for
the money, than ERDAS, PCI or Image Analyst."
[We
congratulate this author who can tell the difference between a real,
functioning product such as TNTlite and the demonstration products of
our competitors.]
Overall
Assessments
[Each of
the 6 image processing products are summarized here, please see the original
article for details on competing products.]
"TNTmips
is in a class by itself. It’s modestly priced (from $3000 to $6000 on
Microsoft Windows-based platforms, depending on resolution), runs on every
type of computer, provides an amazing range of functions and is a competent
raster and vector GIS. Also, the amount of documentation is astonishing, but
it’s not well organized and indexed. The answer is there, but it’s hard to
find. TNTmips has good interoperability with other software and data,
and, if users can limit themselves to small datasets, they can run
TNTlite, which is free! For those looking for a GIS and image processing
solution, TNTmips may be the best single solution."
[The
power users of image processing software mentioned earlier by this author
provide constant input to MicroImages and, we assume, to these other vendors
requesting new and often obscure and exotic features. MicroImages tries to
respond promptly to add as many of these features as possible and provide
them to our clients through frequent upgrades. Because we do respond, we get
even more requests, which helps us make better software for you.
Subsequently, as the software evolves, these features have to be tucked away
deeper into the user interface to maintain a simpler "look and feel" for the
beginning user of IPS–LegendView, introduced in V6.10 is an example
of a simplification. Rapid responses to client requests is not the policy of
competing products which issue upgrades to their products on about 18 month
cycles or only upgrade a certain subprocess and fix errors in others in
shorter cycles.]
[One of
the results of this rapid and important evolution is that you have the
latest tools that can be invented by MicroImages, you, or some other related
product you have seen. However, frequent upgrades make it difficult to
maintain documentation and self-help guides such as our Getting Started
booklets. As a result, it has not been possible to provide a single table of
contents in these materials based upon a single page numbering system across
all documents.]
[The new
context HELP system being introduced with V6.10, when fully
implemented, will provide an on-line "table-of-contents" which can keep up,
without having continuous page numbers, with the various locations,
relocations, expansion, and other constant alterations of the reference
manual and to some extent the Getting Started booklets. Since most of you
are using the on-line reference manual, the perfection of this new scheme
will overcome the author’s criticism with an even better approach.]
[The
Getting Started Booklets were deliberately designed to "stand alone" as
separate self-help tutorial booklets. This format was selected to encourage
new users or those unfamiliar with a process to sit down and spend a few
minutes to "try-it-out" by running through the examples or at least through
the booklet. However, this design did not anticipate the large number of
individual booklets which have now been prepared. It is now confusing to a
new user where to start among these booklets. It is possible that this can
be overcome by providing reference sheets or diagrams showing which booklets
to cover first to get up to speed in managing and visualizing geodata and
then which additional booklets should be reviewed before starting out upon a
specific kind of project. A single, comprehensive index covering all the
booklets, probably electronic and on-line, is also being considered.]
From
MicroImages clients using TNT professional products
Extracted from email from Romania
on 24 December 1998
"Our
current MIPS key is indeed extremely busy. This situation was somehow
caused by TNTlite: it allows all our students to explore and learn
the functionality of TNTmips, and those continuing their studies to
MSc or PhD level are asking for the professional MIPS to help them in
preparing their work and dissertation. So we decided to have a second
license, as the current MIPS system is busy 24/24h (interactive work
during day and batch processes during the night), and the current demand is
even higher than that."
"We’ll
have more funding next year (a larger sum), when we will discuss the upgrade
of the existing key and some additional license (maybe 5 seat lab). For now
we will be happy to get the second key."
[currently buying a second system]
"Please also note that, if you have a prospective client in Romania, you may
direct him/her to our University, we will be glad to offer a free of charge
MIPS demo. We have already presented and/or demonstrated TNTmips
at a couple of symposia or scientific meetings, as we have a high degree of
satisfaction from our MIPS system."
Email from the USA on 14 January
1999
"I
read the version 6.0 release materials today and thought I had better
write while the ideas are still fresh. It’s 1:00 a.m. and usually hard to
keep my eyes open after 9 hours of work and 3 hours of family. But even
while lying in bed I was awake cover to cover while reading the materials. I
realize that the written materials are as important as the software. Three
parts really hit me; the grassland letter of intent, the testimonials on the
university classes, and the flier ‘A True Story’. I am really starting to
feel that the products are knocking down the ivory towers. The letter of
intent was very personal, which I think is unusual in science. But the
material was the most relevant description of misdirected focus of remote
sensing and precision ag I have seen."
[some personal notes omitted here]
"The
testimonials on the number of students interested in geospatial analysis
were very rewarding. I have been wrestling with the idea of offering
training classes for some time now, and after that bit of info I will try to
set up extension courses to teach geospatial analysis with TNTlite. I
think I will set up the courses at universities other than
[a name]. The other dealer
testimonials also supported my conception that Arc/Info users are not really
satisfied with their products, just tolerant of poor quality and POWERLESS
to do anything about it. Imagine running TNTmips completely from SML?
[referring here to the use of AML in Arc/Info] We might as well do
back to command line execution. And this is what ESRI users are still doing,
capturing commands as macros and repeating them over and over. TNTlite
is giving geospatial students power."
"The
flyer ‘A True Story’ completely describes the ‘joke’ being played on the
federal government. I will post it on my wall. Competent integrated systems
engineering is completely dependent upon thorough, detailed trade study
analysis of commercially available software, even if it means delaying
deliveries. Without a detailed cost/benefit review, hundreds of thousands of
dollars will be wasted on expensive, limited-purpose applications."
[Hundreds of millions have already
been wasted! For example, in January 1999, just one US Federal Government
agency, the US Bureau of Management, admitted total failure and canceled the
contract after 6 years and $400 million dollars wasted for development of
their ALMRS (Automated Land and Mineral Record System) for a GIS and related
records management software and hardware system!]
"Great
release materials once again I am rejuvenated. Sorry I can’t make the
workshop."
Extracted from email from South
Africa on 25 January 1999
"I
still haven’t gone through all the new features, but one thing I thoroughly
enjoy is having the cross on the second image when displaying two images, so
one knows exactly where you are on both images."
Extracted from email from South
Africa on 1 February 1999
"I am
a fairly new user of TNTmips and am thoroughly enjoying it thus far
(lots and LOTS to learn!). I am looking for information regarding how
TNTmips can fulfill our corporate needs as I will explain below.
[A dealer] is being of great
help in a number of areas (nuts and bolts) concerning this issue, but there
are some other issues that I would like to ask you about in order to assist
me in providing the relevant information to the powers-that-be (PTB)."
[Some
details skipped here] "Our corporate system (UNIX) is handled to some
extent by Genamap, but as you may be aware, Genasys is going through a
crisis and the possibility of switching software is now up for discussion. I
would obviously favour a total switch to TNT for a variety of
reasons, and have a fair deal of support for doing so." [continues with
questions]
Extracted from email from Italy
on 10 February 1999
"I
have started work with some of the tutorials and they are excellent, really
first rate. I have some real data to work with (projects with aerial photos,
vectorization of elevation maps, etc.) and hope to have good results
quickly."
Extracted from email from Alaska
on 12 February 1999
"We
have been using your software since before windows and it keeps getting more
useful and user friendly all the time."
Extracted from email from Great
Britain on 10 March 1999
[From a
client with the current versions of ENVI and TNTmips]
"ENVI
vs. TNT. I don’t like ENVI very much, OK for experimentation but it
isn’t a production system, it’s quite ‘clunky’, and doesn’t have the breadth
of vector/cad/database functionality that TNT has. Also it generates
a huge number of individual files (images, gcp’s, stats) that you end up
struggling to manage. I have no procedure for feeding ideas to them."
[The
integrated Project File concept is one of the unique features of the TNT
products.]
Extracted from email from Great
Britain on 11 March 1999
[With
reference to his student who is currently using a TNTmips 5.0, circa
1995]
"The
student is working on a research project with me, and I have recommended
that she use TNTmips because it is a complete package. More over,
since she needs to learn the ropes and I am writing a book about that, she
will be an ideal tester for what I produce."
"Apart
from that she will not be imputing to the book project, except to try out my
exercises using TNTlite v. 6.0."
"In
many ways v.5.0 is still a viable package, certainly for what she
will need to do, and in some cases such as vector editing I think that it is
somewhat easier to master than the new material, though not so
comprehensive."
Extracted from an email exchange
with France on 27 April 1999
[From
MicroImages concerning questions regarding processing of CASI hyperspectral
images] "It is hoped that your introduction to TNTmips has been
uneventful given the Getting Started booklets and [another French
client’s name] instruction? Hyperspectral image analysis is one (1) of
the areas that MicroImages has focused considerable attention on over the
last few software releases and the release for version 6.10 is no
exception. A list of the new features added [by V6.10] to the
hyperspectral process was sent to all clients in late March. You may wish to
review this list to see how they can be applied toward your research."
[From
client] "Thank you, my introduction was good and Getting Started booklets
helped me in this way."
[From
MicroImages] "Your interest in using CASI imagery is of particular note.
This is due to the fact that the president of MicroImages, Dr. Lee Miller
contacted the president of the company who makes the CASI hyperspectral
device about (4) months ago. Our call was in reference to supporting the
native format outputted by the CASI device as a standard import in
TNTmips. At that time, we were promised information on the format as
well as sample imagery. However, as of this date, nothing has arrived. Do
you have any sample imagery and format documentation? If not, it might
prompt some action if there was a request by a user of the CASI data for
having support within TNTmips for a direct import routine."
[From
client] "In fact, post-processing software provided by ITRES (the company
who makes the CASI hyperspectral device) reads the data on the band recorded
during the flight in the native format and performs roll and geo correction.
The output data provided by this software are in PCI format (.pix). So it is
possible to import directly the files from CASI with the [TNT]
import PCI routine."
Extracted from email from Poland
on 27 April 1999
[Client
using a multiple user TNTmips in UNIX] "I’m sorry that you wait so
long for the answer from me. I was absent for two weeks and I have classes
with students. In reference to your FAX of 5 April."
"Thank
you for advices connecting with sending SML script to your website.
Also thank you for material (Getting Started booklet, some pages from Press
Relise 5.9 [???])
but I don’t need them (because I have from your website–some days after you
publish them on Internet." [New materials are downloaded by many from
our web site as fast as we can create and publish them.]
"Three
years ago I was starting use TNTlite during my classes with students
(my subject–Remote sensing and the basics of image processing). From the
5.8 version [and
subsequent versions] I make a CD for students with TNTlite (for
Windows environment) based on material from your website. This CD contains
TNTlite system and data sets, all Getting Started booklets, Press
Realise, SML and geoformula scripts, published papers, presentation’s
materials (.mpg added for 5.9). Each student can take it, next
install on his/her computer and learn more about GIS/IP." [I think that
he means the Release MEMO, as our Press Releases would be of little value to
his students.]
"...Now about localization TNTmips into Polish. We planned this some
time ago. Three person are connected with this task. But now we have no
time, because we have lectures and classes with students. For the moment we
prepared dictionary (version 6.0) for translating. We plan to finish
this work before end of June (perhaps for the version 6.2)."
From
MicroImages dealers
Extracted from email on 14
December 1998
[Using an
early beta V6.10]
"Localization. One of the first things I tried was the new localization
tool. It works great and saves lots of time in comparison to the
‘work-around’ I had been using. Maybe you remember, for updating of the
resource files I compared the versions with Textpad, import the result and
both versions of the resource file to dbase, let dbase change the resource
file and export to plain text format and then start translating new lines.
Really very time consuming. The translation of the resource files is now
underway. I calculate that it would take around 40 hours to update from
5.7 to 6.0."
Extracted from email on 14
December 1998
[Using an
early beta V6.10]
"Looking around in some processes showed me that the staff of MicroImages
again has done a great job. Now it is up to the community of all resellers,
to convince people of the advantages of MicroImages products."
Extracted from email on 11
January 1999
"I was
pleased to hear that all the Ichthyology students received first class marks
for their GIS-based projects. This is a credit to their hard work, our
training and your software–remember these are non-geography students, who
had never used any GIS system before. That they were able to get to grips
with concepts of spatial data handling, analysis and presentation, while
remaining focused on their project goals demonstrates how well-designed your
products are, and how they are geared to productivity."
Extracted from email on 11
January 1999
"Last
week we received Version 6.0 of TNTmips. Congratulations!
Although being delayed quite some bit, I consider this to be the most
impressive quarterly upgrade package we ever received. Upgrade installation
was smooth and the performance (both speed and memory footprint) appears to
be significantly improved over earlier versions. The artwork you provide
with the package is IMHO of excellent quality and the range of themes now
covered by the Getting Started Booklets is–as far as I can see it–without
example in the industry; I can’t see where in the GIS software industry the
quality of layout and content of these little booklets can be matched. The
SML functions you added will help us a lot with our ongoing
development of precision farming applications based on the TNTmips
platform."
Extracted from email on 2
February 1999
"Well,
I said ‘99 was going to be my SML year. I needed to write something
for a project I’m working on, so I jumped in the deep end and got going.
Last time I really programmed was during my
[degree program]. Logic is a bit
rusty these days. I found it tough going but within a week I had programmed
what I needed, complete with selection widgets, result report forms, and
fancy bit like coloured ‘lights’ that come on next to the result to inform
the user of the quality of the result. In the process I got to grips with
reading and writing files, working with widgets, georeference translation
parameters, classes and members. Now, more than ever, I realize the power of
SML, and really am excited about what could be done here. The SML
I’ve written, will, with a bit more added in, be a very marketable product.
Only problem is, its addictive! I’ve forgotten the sense of fulfillment one
gets writing some code and getting a product that does just what you want. I
got so hooked that I lost plenty of hours of sleep. Bottom line is, I’ve
crossed the SML hurdle, and its really not that hard. I feel better
knowing what it’s all about and that I can do it–can now honestly give
clients better support here. Just one thing–I hate designing widgets–getting
things in the right place and selecting the right kind of widget etc. is a
pain, and takes up most of the programming effort? Your wizard idea, as
implemented to design contour label queries, could be great to have here,
i.e. a wizard to help one design forms/place widgets."
[The
introduction of an SML for Windows in V6.10 and its subsequent
perfection will eventually allow the many Windows layout, design, and wizard
tools to be used in creating scripts.]
"...
maybe I’m weird, but when the TNTmips box arrives here it’s like
Christmas–I rip open the box to get at the Memo and no one can get any sense
out of me until I’ve read it cover-to-cover. It goes to bed with me.
Obviously, some people just go for the CD, install and carry on–and complain
first."
Extracted from email on 2
February 1999
"Yes,
the course is over now and two more users are on their way. The two systems
are being used on-site [in a
project area]. After showing them the nuts and bolts of TNTmips,
we got into their data and used TNTmips to model and evaluate one of
the [areas]. They didn’t expect that TNTmips could do this–a
bonus for them and they were delighted. The results we got confirmed some of
their crude hand calculators, which they weren’t to confident about going to
management with. Now they have some really good quantifiable and
reproducible results, to immediately show management. These guys are really
excited about the possibilities, and how quickly things can be done;
analyses which took weeks or months to perform, should take less than a week
now."
Extracted from a FAX on 23 March
1999
"Some
information about TNT products in
[a small nation]. A lot of people
requested me for information about TNTlite. I think that in [this
small nation] are a lot of downloaded installations of TNTlite. My
estimation more than 300 users."
Extracted from an email on 15
April 1999
"Some
days ago I downloaded the latest version of TNTdisp and TNTedit.
The new legend view works great, its helpful for everyday GIS-jobs."
From a
prospective dealer
Extracted from email on 22
February 1999
"We
are authorized ESRI business partners, entitled to re-sell ArcView. Does
this preclude us from MicroImages reseller program? (personally, I believe
that MapInfo and ArcView are both analogous to high school level ability,
whilst TNTmips is high school, university, through to PhD.
level–basically it’s most usual limitation is with the users imagination or
knowledge of the program.)"
[This
party was subsequently signed up as a new MicroImages Authorized Dealer.]
From TNTlite
users
Posted on comp.infosystems.gis by
Eric Miller on 23 November 1998
"After
browsing this newsgroup for awhile, I wonder if anyone uses TNT-Mips/TNTlite?
I’ve been using TNTlite for about a month and a half on my Linux
machine, just to check it out. It has some really cool features that just
smoke ArcView and are much easier than Arc/Info."
"Haven’t used all of the features/aspects...I’ve been doing a little change
detection studies with NALC data, and was pleased to find several variant
formulas built in (though algebraically they’re pretty simple.). I couldn’t
figure out how to do something similar with ArcView without writing Avenue
code (belch!), Arc/Info’s easy enough in Grid but you still have to look up
all those commands and parameters and then write AMLs...."
"Anyway, I really dig the fact they (MicroImages) have a system that can run
on Multiple Platforms *easily* and the files can be shared between Macs,
Windoze, Unix’s without conversion. Also they don’t spread so many damn
files all over the place, instead using a single RasterVectorCad file
system. Their GUI needs an update, but hell it’s the ease of use and the
output that matters. Anyway, I’m just looking for other peoples opinions on
their product (not salespeople!)."
Extracted from email from
anonymous on 8 December 1998
"I
just downloaded the Mac 68k version of TNTlite from your website."
[continues on with question]
"Just
a quick aside, Congratulations on your documentation. I downloaded some of
your booklets and was very impressed, both by the content and the style. I
am also very impressed by the range of features included in you product. One
last point, I think having a uniform product for all the platforms is a
great idea!"
Response posted on
comp.infosystems.gis by Robert Sanson.
govt.nz on 24 November 1998
"I
have been trying out TNTlite for about the last month or so. It is a
very comprehensive system (image processing, vector topological, CAD
(non-topological), surface modeling), and it seems like they usually give
you several algorithms to pick from for each process you want to run."
"I’m
still trying to get to grips with their database system though. Instead of
providing functions for things like computing centroids of polygon features
(like ArcView), they include them in an internal table (like Arc/Info),
however I haven’t figured out how to get them from here into other tables
(I’m not sure how they attach attributes to spatial features)."
Response posted on
comp.infosystems.gis by a MicroImages client on 29 November 1998
"TNTmips
product are very, *very* good."
"Another unsolicited testimonial. Just a mostly satisfied customer."
Posted on comp.infosystems.gis by
Orin Durey on 13 December 1998
"Anybody familiar with any GIS that will run on Linux? I saw a post that
suggested GRASS. Any others?"
Response from Russia posted on
comp.infosystems.gis on 23 January 1999
"Check
TNTlite (www.microimages.com) if you can download 100 Mb, you can get
free trial version (although with some limitations)."
Extracted from a posting on
comp.infosystems.gis on 23 January 1999
"TNTmips
will run on Macs using MI/X server. Check out
http://www.micro-images.com. They have some impressive figures about the
speed of their software on the new iMac. You can try our a free version,
just needs a key to become fully operational, that’ll give you an idea of
what you can do with this software. It’s a pretty powerful packages with
good support for a variety of file formats. It does GIS, Image Analysis,
CAD. The software isn’t exactly cheap though, so it may be more than you
need."
An exchange on
comp.infosystems.gis on 26 January 1999
[Question] "I was hoping one of you could help me with the following
problem: I have two scanned images which in part cover the same area. I want
to register one to another in such a way that I can use these images in
multispectral analysis. In other words, I do not just want to align features
(georeferencing) but I want to resample to the same grid so pixels match
geometrically. I am using MicroImages’ TNTlite but I would also like
to know if other software packages offer solutions for this kind of
problem."
[Response
from a MicroImages client] "If you know the resolution of your input
images (which you should), I think this can be done with TNTmips
under the Extract menu. You can define areas from each image that ‘match’
and extract them. If you use the same sized area for both, and both images
were scanned at the same resolution, then they should overlay
properly–provided relief displacement and such aren’t issues. It may take
some playing to get images to match properly, without georectifying them."
Extracted from a posting from
Canada on comp.infosystems.gis on 10 February 1999
"In
addition there is TNTlite from MicroImages, free for download, but
with some restrictions on the size of files, and import/export capabilities,
but of a student it should not be a problem."
Email from Canada on 19 February
1999
[Responding to MicroImages’ support]
"Thanks Melanie. I’m using TNTlite 6.0 so that explains it.
Great program!"
Email from Canada on 10 March
1999
"As
discussed earlier with you
[via phone], I received the TNTlite software image processing and
GIS and I think it is a very helpful tool for students and academic works in
remote sensing and GIS. Since there is no French version of this software,
and taking into account that remote sensing studies are getting more and
more popular in high schools and universities, I was wondering about the
possibilities of an agreement between MicroImages and [an academic
institute] for the French translation of the software and tutorial. The
[Institute] develops image processing algorithms (filtering, texture,
segmentation, classification) and is also one of the most important center
for remote sensing in Canada and among French speaking countries."
Extracted from a posting from
Texas on comp.infosystems.gis on 19 March 1999
[Question
from Canada] "As a follow up to my last message, my focus is on which
companies are targeting universities, colleges and technical institutes with
their software. I am aware that ESRI seems to own the market in the States
but am wondering who the underdogs may be and also has a presence in Canada
and Mexico."
"I am
trying to compare various academic programs that each company offers,
specially for the following software: Remote Sensing, Digital
Photogrammetry, GIS, Mapping, Image Visualization. Thanks for any input,
thanks for those that have already replied."
[Response
from Texas] "While they don’t target academic programs, MicroImages’
TNTmips (http://www/microimages.com) pretty much covers the topics you
are interested in, and there is a student version called TNTlite
(http://www/microimages.com/products/tntmipsfree/) which is very inexpensive ($10 for CD
or $50 for CD and 1000 pages of tutorials). These programs do not have
market dominance but do have an international distribution. In addition
there is a student workbook that can be used with either program."
Email from unknown on 19 April
1999
"I
have encountered two problems/issues running TNTlite v6.0 on
my Power Mac 7100/66 (32MB RAM)."
[Two
problems followed relative to using library spectral and endmembers in the
hyperspectral analyses].
"Otherwise, the new hyperspectral analysis capability of TNT mips
is quite powerful an well thought out. Bravo!"
Posted from Australia on
comp.infosystems.gis on 20 April 1999
"Hi
all, Interested to know how many out there are into TNTmips, and what
you think of it. I’m fairly new to it but am quite impressed with its range
of capabilities. Especially impressed with TNTlite, price (free)
documentation and datasets."
"Is
there such as thing as a discussion list or FAQ site?"
[A
TNTmips FAQ will be up by the time your read this.]
Response from Florida posted on
comp.infosystems.gis on 28 April 1999
"MicroImages’ website (www.microimages.com) has much info that is of a FAQ
in nature. There was a short-lived discussion list, but it was terminated
(don’t know why)."
"As a
user of both the old DOS-Based MIPS, and the current Win9x and Linux
versions of this GIS package. I am extremely satisfied customer. The folks
at MicroImages don’t spend a lot on advertising, but they do on continuous
development of their software (FOUR upgrades/year)."
Email from a computer science
department in Japan on 22 April 1999
"I
greatly appreciate permission to include your free product MI/X in
our [student] CD-ROM.
And, if you don’t mind, I would like to include TNTlite too. I didn’t
know about TNTlite before, but now I have checked the web-page out
and think it is really useful for our students. Well, I know you re also
providing a free copy of CD-ROM including TNTlite. But it is
difficult for us to distribute one more CD-ROM for all (over one hundred of)
students [in computer science]. Anyway, it helps to make directory
tree within our CD-ROM to send me a copy of your CD-ROM. Please send to the
following address."
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